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November 2004 Featured Boat -
Carver Commander

Members Update

Carver Update

Club Update

New Gadget

There is a new wireless command device for boats with electronic shifters.  It’s called the Yacht Controller and is available from New Wave Dynamics, Inc.  The wireless control center looks like something you would use for a remote control boat.  It has controls for each engine and optional controls for the bow thruster, stern thruster, and windlass.  The wireless device works for distances of up to 150 feet.  Basically, the Yacht Controller gives you a second, portable helm station. 

If you have ever tried to back into a slip where you could not see the dock, tried to pick up a mooring line, or needed another set of hands for the lines, the Yacht Controller may be something you would be interested in.  Ben Wilson is the director of marketing for New Wave.  You can reach him at 410-507-4005 or you can visit their web site at http://www.yachtcontroller.com for more information.

 

Boat Talk Questions

Two types of questions frequently come up in Boat Talk – What kind of performance should I expect from my boat? And, Where can I find parts for my older boat?  The performance question is always tricky.  When I ask about performance, I am always asked, “where is the boat kept and how is the boat used?”  Performance degrades fairly quickly in brackish or salt water due to marine growth.  There are two ways (at least) to minimize the loss of performance.  You can have the bottom cleaned or you take the boat up to cruising speed at least once a week to abrade the marine growth from the bottom.  One of our members attempted to clean the bottom by dragging it through a sandy bottom.  NOT RECOMMENDED and very expensive.  When posting a question to Boat Talk about performance, let us know where you boat and how often you use the boat at cruising speed.

Finding spare parts for older boats can be a major problem.  TechGuy and AnswerLady do a great job finding spare parts and referring owners to that source.  McDaniel Yacht Basin, a Carver Dealer for more years than Tom Trainer would want to admit, is also an excellent source for original parts or acceptable replacements.  Call parts and ask for Paula.  Tell her you are a Carver Owners Club member and ask her to help. 

My Most Recent Mistake

I recently sent out renewal notices to members using an out-of-date membership list.  Please accept my apology for this mistake.  I’m still trying to get the new web site to work properly.  Thank you for your understanding.

 

Circuit Breaker Problems Notice of Recall

Let me close this out.  Carver notified all boat owners with the recalled electrical panels via certified mail.  If you received a recall letter, contact your dealer for replacements.

Upcoming Events

The Club is beginning to plan events for next year.  We are planning more rendezvous, more Saturday Nights Out, and a Cruise Ship Cruise.  We may also look at setting up a way for singles to find additional crew members.

The cruise ship cruise is a member-sponsored event.  That is, the Club is notifying members about it, but does not sponsor it.  Here is an overview of the Cruise.  It will be held January 8 – 15, 2005 on Royal Caribbean's newest ship, "Serenade of the Seas.  It has a rock climbing wall, a golf course, casino, swimming pools, jacuzzis, hot tubs, restaurants, theatre, etc. etc. and the most glass any ship has.  The prices are all "per person" based on double occupancy and start at $927.00 for an inside cabin; $977.05 for an ocean view cabin per person; $1,297.05 for a deluxe suite with balcony; and $1,627.05 for a Junior Suite.  It includes all your food, coffee, tea and ice tea, but not alcoholic beverages.   Please note that these prices are based on first come, first served basis, and are subject to availability.  Prices are subject to change based on demand.  That is, prices may go up from these prices for the same accommodations.  Prices do not include insurance (about $89.00 per person if you care to have it) or airfare.  Third persons in cabins are a lot cheaper.   You can arrange airfare on your own (generally cheaper) or ask the travel agent to make arrangements.   You can visit Royal Caribbean’s website at www.rccl.com for more information.

JOE MARTINEZ is the Agent the Carver Owner's Club members need to contact regarding the Cruise.  His toll-free telephone number is (800) 683-7447.  Enter # 1 at the prompt, and his Extension is 77148.  He works daily from 11:00 a.m.. until 8:00 p.m.  You may get his voice mail so leave a message.  He is very prompt in returning calls.  Tell him you are a member of the Carver Owners Club.  This will guarantee that we can be seated together for meals at the main seating.   You do not have to eat with other Club members, but it is a way to meet one another.

Finding additional crew members.  I received this note from one of our members.  Do you know of any other [crew members] out there? I love my boat & I need help.”  This is a fairly common question and we’ve tried to figure out a way to introduce boaters who prefer not to take their boat out alone to interested potential crew, without the risk of spending a weekend with an unpleasant guest.  One of the ideas we’ve had is to have a Saturday Night Out specifically for boaters looking for crew and crew looking for boats.  That way, you could meet one another in person and form your own opinion.  We may be missing other opportunities to do introductions.  If you have any suggestions, please let me know. 

Saturday Night Out.  We had good success with the Saturday Night Out during the summer.  We’d like to expand this to more areas.  Saturday Night Out is where members and owners who may be interested in becoming members meet at a restaurant on Saturday night and have dinner.  One member coordinates the restaurant.  People attending pay for their own dinner and drinks.  In the summer or in nice weather, we usually cruise in.  The Club’s goal is to have a member “host” one month a year in an area.  For example, Woodie and Ann Herrin hosted the August 2004 SNO; Jim and Sue Shilling hosted the May 2004 SNO; and I hosted the July SNO.  This year, we’re looking to have a SNO in Chicago, New York City, the Upper Chesapeake Bay, and the lower Chesapeake Bay during the winter months.  If you are interested in hosting a Saturday Night Out, please contact me and we’ll begin to make arrangements.

Rendezvous.  The Florida hurricanes created all kinds of problems for our winter Rendezvous planning.  One of our challenges is to find marinas that are not so extensively damaged that they can accommodate a 30 – 50 boat rendezvous.  We are still working with Don Wilson to have a Florida East Coast Rendezvous and we are planning another Florida West Coast Rendezvous early next year.  The Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous is planned for June 10, 11, and 12 2005 at Baltimore.  We are hoping that we can get sponsorship for rendezvous in Canada, Chicago, New York, and Tidewater Virginia.  One of the ideas we are considering is having a rendezvous one weekend in Baltimore and one in Tidewater Virginia either the weekend before or after.  That way, members could attend each rendezvous and we would cruise as a group to the next location.  Again, any ideas are greatly appreciated.

The New Web Site 

The accessories marketplace has been missing from the new web site.  The reason is simple – I ran out of time while getting the new web site up.  It should be available by the time you read this.  The accessories marketplace has been very successful in selling spare items.  In many cases, items sold from the marketplace on the same day it was listed.  It is now available for browsing by anyone coming to the web site, not just members.

I encourage you to update your Owners Album listing or add your boat to the Owners Album.  This is a very popular part of the web site and a nice way to meet other members who have the same boat or who are nearby.

I’m changing the Boats for Sale listings so you can make changes to the listing without having to contact me.  This should be available by the middle of November. 

We are also putting together a photo album of members using their boats or just having fun.  If you have a photo or two that you especially like, send it or them to me (email is preferred) to be included.  One photo I received was a Carver Sandwich – a Defever between two Carvers.

Features

Our Featured Boat this month is a wooden Carver.  Originally from Ohio, it retired to Texas for a full restore.  It is a 16 foot, 1965 Carver Commander, powered with an 85 horsepower Johnson outboard.  It includes a trailer and is listed for sale at $3,000.  Check it out.  For $3,000 it makes a great conversation piece.

We received a response to the featured article last month about service affecting sales.  “I have read your article on slow sales with interest. While it may be partially right I really think that the disposable income available, the cost of fuel, shortage of moorage spaces, the sharp increase in the price of boats, and even perhaps the trend to Euro style over traditional style all are factors that cannot be overlooked.

 ‘While I have had and have heard of poor service from the dealers I know that what kept me back from moving up was the price and style of the boats. In our area (British Columbia) we had a depressed economy (work available but no profit, forestry cutbacks, Asian flu, fisheries closures, etc.) all had a devastating affect on the economy. Now take a look at the price of a boat like mine in 1992 (350 Aft) and then in 2004 when the ceased production on the model. Has your income gone up that much?. I generally buy new but we are now buying a 98 405 at a very good price. A new equivalent boat, such as the 396/444, is out of the question due to purchase price. Fuel everywhere is expensive and a concern.

“I really think these are the real issues and they are issues manufacturers and dealers do not want to talk about.

“I think Carver has made a mistake going away from the traditional style. While some Euro's look great not everyone likes them. A mix is good. Look at the mileage that Navigator gets from its "Classics" and Bayliner/Meridian's refusal to change the style of the 47/49 Pilothouse.”

All of these factors were mentioned in the research for the original article about service.  The result has been a very active resale or brokered boat market, with older boats increasing in value.  Thanks, Russ, for a thoughtful reply.

Gift Ideas

With the holidays coming up, you may be interested in some nautical themed jewelry.  Check out Jewelry By Design at http://www.virtik.com for some unique ideas in most price ranges.

 

Safe Boating, Dave Bishop, aka webdude@carverownersclub.com